Roger Ebert reviews Godzilla 1985 (1984). |
Gene Siskel and Roger Ebert outside of the Pickwick Theatre in Park Ridge, IL. |
The pair's connection to the more obscure aspects of kaiju eiga is actually quite fascinating. In fact, the intro to the Tribune Media version of their show (called At the Movies) from 1982 through 1986 was shot at the Pickwick Theatre in Park Ridge, Illinois, which later became infamous for its summer screenings of low-quality tokusatsu DVDs. While that may not a direct connection to the genre by any means, it's certainly worth mentioning here.
A still from King Kong Escapes (1967) as seen during the introduction of Opening Soon at a Theater Near You. |
If we want to find all their references to Godzilla and other kaiju, it turns out that we have to go back at least to the very first show that Siskel and Ebert ever hosted. That show was the November 1975 episode of Opening Soon at a Theater Near You, which was shown on the PBS affiliate WTTW Chicago. In the intro, stills from both King Kong Escapes (1967) and Destroy All Monsters (1968) are included in the opening montage that mostly features images from classic Hollywood films.
A still from Destroy All Monsters (1968) as seen during the introduction of Opening Soon at a Theater Near You. |
By early 1976 (when the pair reviewed Martin Scorsese's Taxi Driver), both stills remained in the intro. By the end of the year, however, only the frame from King Kong Escapes was still included.
In early 1977, when naming A*P*E (1976) one of the worst movies of the year on the program, Siskel quipped:
You know, they said this picture shouldn't be confused with King Kong. Hell, it shouldn't be confused with Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster!
The "good bad movie" is by now an accepted item of cultural history, and we are all familiar with the theory that a movie can be so bad that it's good. Just consider "Infra-Man."
Examples: Dialogue; Is so consistently bad that the entire screenplay could be submitted as an example. My favorite moment occurs when the hero and heroine are clutching each other on a top floor of a skyscraper being torn apart by Godzilla and the professor leaps into the shot, says "What has happened here?" and leaps out again without waiting for an answer.
I don't know about you, but I'd take Ebert's criticisms much more seriously if he stuck to pointing out things that actually happen in the movie. He continues:
Lip-synching: Especially in the opening shots, there seems to be a subtle effort to exaggerate the bad coordination between what we see and what we hear. All lip-synch is a little off, of course, but this movie seems to be going for condescending laughs from knowledgable filmgoers.
There have been a lot of Godzilla adventures since the original one in 1956 (my favorite is "Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster"), but this is the first one made by Toho, the studio that launched the series.
And I was really looking forward to this one. I thought, Oh, what great timing, bringing back Godzilla, that radioactive dinosaur, who was so much goofy fun when he stomped on people and buildings. I love the sound it makes when he stomps -- BOOM! And it's a big, big sound; a whole city is falling over with every step. He also was a reminder, of course, of the horrors of nuclear war; that's how he was created. Well, so much for those great, high expectations because -- and I can't believe I'm saying this -- Godzilla 1985 is dull. And it's only funny when it's completely inept, which sadly is only part of the time, because most of the time it's just dull.
EBERT: This movie was real bad.SISKEL: It was real bad. I still think it had to be low-budget because what does Godzilla get paid, number one. And, two, what does Raymond Burr get paid?EBERT: Well, actually, though, Godzilla probably cost a lot because of all those special effects.
SISKEL: What they should have done, I think, is make a parody of Godzilla, but Toho Studios, I mean, they weren't going to fool around. Or at least make him scary.EBERT: [Do you have] a horrible suspicion that maybe they thought this was a parody?SISKEL: No, I have a horrible suspicion that they didn't think it was a parody and didn't want it to be a parody because they think Godzilla is too precious to be parodied.
EBERT: (laughs)
SISKEL: That's more worse [sic] -- think about it!
So one of the critics thought the movie was too pathetic to lampoon while the other thought it was expensive enough to rip apart mercilessly. Pick your poison, I guess.
Mention should be made that, after all this trashing, the poster for Godzilla 1985 somehow made it into Ebert's office during the 1986-99 intro on the Buena Vista Television version of their program. While I couldn't find a clear view of it on any of the uploaded videos of the intro I watched, you can see the poster much more clearly in this short video of another Roger Ebert review of the movie.
Many years later, Siskel and Ebert would take a crack at the Gamera series, and the results would actually be more positive -- to a point. In his 1997 written review of Gamera: Guardian of the Universe (1995), Ebert explains:
"Gamera: Guardian of the Universe'' is precisely the kind of movie that I enjoy, despite all rational reasoning. How, you may ask, can I possibly prefer this Japanese monster film about a jet-powered turtle to a megabudget solemnity like "Air Force One"? It has laughable acting, a ludicrous plot, second-rate special effects and dialogue such as, "Someday, I'll show you around monster-free Tokyo!'' The answer, I think, is that "Gamera'' is more fun.
Ebert continues:
Then, if they continue to grow older and wiser, they complete the circle and return to "Gamera'' again, realizing that while both movies are preposterous, the turtle movie has the charm of utter goofiness--and, in an age of flawless special effects, it is somehow more fun to watch flawed ones.
In the above quote, Ebert describes how imaginary moviegoers evolve in their sophistication when it comes to appreciating the quality of films and continues to compare Gamera with Air Force One (1997) in his diatribe. Both films are ridiculous, Ebert avers, but the ridiculousness of Gamera is more entertaining.
Speaking of, I vividly remember one of the reviews quoted in the newspaper ads for Air Force One, which went something like: "Glenn Close is number one as number two," which, as toilet humor goes, sure beats the kind that Ebert used elsewhere in his Gamera review (which I won't get into here, but feel free to check it out for yourself if that's your thing).
Ebert continues:
"Gamera'' is not a good movie but it is a good moviegoing experience.
And:
Gamera has starred in nine films in 32 years, but has never attained the stardom of Godzilla, perhaps because of speciesism, which prejudices us to prefer dinosaurs to turtles.
He closes with:
Studying the film's press kit, I discover that Ayako Fujitani is Steven Seagal's daughter, and I punch my fist into the air and cry, "Yesssss!''
Gamera: Guardian of the Universe was also reviewed on Siskel & Ebert. In his television review, Ebert quips:
She's played here by Ayako Fujitani, the daughter of movie star Steven Seagal, and, just like her dad, she only appears in the most intelligent screenplays.
Ebert goes on to praise the movie for what he considers its goofier aspects and recommends it for the nostalgic feelings it gave him for those old Japanese monster movies he used to like (?) in his younger days. Then Gene responds:
Well, I think that all of the criticisms you leveled against it are absolutely accurate, and so what I would do is, get one of the good ones, get one of the Godzilla pictures, and rent that and put that on. And then you could recommend that because that will be more entertaining than this.
Siskel concludes by saying he loves the idea of a giant, atomic-powered turtle and wants to see a good movie about one but that this one ain't it.
Godzilla (1998) gets covered next, which, lest we forget, features the infamous Mayor Ebert character (played by Michael Lerner) and his assistant Gene. How did the critics react to their getting parodied in the movie at the time? Let's find out.
In his Movie Answer Man column from May 17, 1998, in response to a reader's question about the Mayor Ebert character in Godzilla, Ebert jokingly replies:
I am deeply honored to be working with Mr. Godzilla in his first major Hollywood film.
In his written review of Godzilla (1998), Ebert writes:
The makers of the film, director Roland Emmerich and writer Dean Devlin, follow the timeless outlines of many other movies about Godzilla, Rodan, Mothra, Gamera and their radioactive kin. There are ominous attacks on ships at sea, alarming blips on radar screens, and a scientist who speculates that nuclear tests may have spawned a mutant creature.
Later on, he continues:
One must carefully repress intelligent thought while watching such a film. The movie makes no sense at all except as a careless pastiche of its betters (and, yes, the Japanese Godzilla movies are, in their way, better--if only because they embrace dreck instead of condescending to it). You have to absorb such a film, not consider it. But my brain rebelled, and insisted on applying logic where it was not welcome.
Regarding the Mayor Ebert character, Ebert notes that he fully expected to get stomped on by the King of the Monsters and then muses:
Now that I've inspired a character in a Godzilla movie, all I really still desire is for several Ingmar Bergman characters to sit in a circle and read my reviews to one another in hushed tones.
But, wait, there's more:
There is a way to make material like "Godzilla" work. It can be campy fun, like the recent "Gamera: Guardian Of The Universe." Or hallucinatory, like "Infra-Man." Or awesome, like "Jurassic Park." Or it can tap a certain elemental dread, like the original "King Kong" (1933). But all of those approaches demand a certain sympathy with the material, a zest that rises to the occasion.
In his television review on Siskel & Ebert, Ebert states, "[T]he monster itself lacks the majesty and mystery of the earlier movie Godzillas, even though they were in schlock films." Siskel panned the movie for its lack of terror, which he named a staple of giant monster movies. While not saying anything specifically about the Japanese versions of Godzilla, Siskel does complain that the inclusion of Mayor Ebert and his assistant Gene was "petty."
Several months later on Siskel & Ebert, Siskel named Godzilla as one of the worst films of 1998, making it his selection in the category "Special Effects That Weren't That Special." Siskel criticized the flick for being devoid of thrills while not mentioning anything about the Japanese editions.
In the same episode, Ebert adds, "Even though the Japanese Godzilla films were way down on the scale when it came to cleverness with special effects, nevertheless their special effects were good enough that in those movies Godzilla had a personality. Godzilla was the star of those movies, and in this new Godzilla he was basically just this impersonal, uninteresting, giant lizard that seemed to cause most of its damage by accident, waving its tail around."
Regaled for 50 years by the stupendous idiocy of the American version of "Godzilla," audiences can now see the original Japanese version, which is equally idiotic, but, properly decoded, was the "Fahrenheit 9/11" of its time. Both films come after fearsome attacks on their nations, embody urgent warnings, and even incorporate similar dialogue, such as "The report is of such dire importance it must not be made public." Is that from 1954 Tokyo or 2004 Washington?
In these days of flawless special effects, Godzilla and the city he destroys are equally crude. Godzilla at times looks uncannily like a man in a lizard suit, stomping on cardboard sets, as indeed he was, and did. Other scenes show him as a stuffed, awkward animatronic model. This was not state of the art even at the time; "King Kong" (1933) was much more convincing.
When Dr. Serizawa demonstrates the Oxygen Destroyer to the fiancee of his son, the superweapon is somewhat anticlimactic. He drops a pill into a tank of tropical fish, the tank lights up, he shouts "stand back!," the fiancee screams, and the fish go belly up. Yeah, that'll stop Godzilla in his tracks.
This is a bad movie, but it has earned its place in history, and the enduring popularity of Godzilla and other monsters shows that it struck a chord.
In his review of Infra-Man, Ebert writes:
And so we're off and running, in the best movie of its kind since Invasion of the Bee Girls. I'm a pushover for monster movies anyway, but Infra-Man has it all: Horrendous octopus men, a gigantic beetle man with three eyes who sprays his victims with sticky cocoons, savage robots with coiled spring necks that can extend ten feet, a venomous little critter that looks like a hairy mutant footstool, elaborately staged karate fights, underground throne rooms, damsels in distress, exploding volcanoes, and a whip-cracking villainess named Princess Dragon Mom (Philip Wylie, please note).
These may be the only words of genuine praise Ebert has written about a live-action Asian monster movie:
The movie even looks good: It's a classy, slick production by the Shaw Brothers, the Hong Kong kung fu kings. When they stop making movies like Infra-Man, a little light will go out of the world.
On their TV show Sneak Previews, the pair hosted a special episode called "Take 2: Guilty Pleasures" (1979). On this episode, Ebert quipped:
Infra-Man was produced by Hong Kong's leading sultans of schlock: two brothers named Run Run Shaw and Runme Shaw, and this time they really outran themselves.
Well, at least he didn't say something truly silly like "the Korean Infra-Man."
Infra-Man would be brought up again by Ebert in the "Guilty Pleasures" episode aired on Siskel & Ebert in 1987. Interestingly, the pair would have this exchange on the show:
SISKEL: Actually, I think there was a film similar to it called Ultraman. But, anyway...
EBERT: A rip-off, probably.
SISKEL: No, no, I think that one came first.
Siskel goes on to point out that he enjoys the pose Infra-Man makes when he fires his beam. The results leave a lot to be desired.
Gene Siskel imitates Infra-Man's pose (and doesn't get it quite right). |
In his 1999 review of Mighty Peking Man (1977), Ebert writes:
"Mighty Peking Man," made in 1977, is being re-released by Quentin Tarantino's Rolling Thunder Pictures, and we can only imagine young QT behind the counter of that legendary video store of his youth, watching this on the monitor and realizing he'd struck gold.
Actually, I think Tarantino jockeyed the desk at the video store, dreaming about the throngs of backyard moviemakers who would artistically handwave in front of tens of people at local "film festivals" as they enthusiastically described themselves as "Tarantino types."
Ebert finishes his newspaper MPM review thus:
I am awarding "Mighty Peking Man" three stars, for general goofiness and a certain level of insane genius, but I cannot in good conscience rate it higher than "Infra-Man." So, in answer to those correspondents who ask if I have ever changed a rating on a movie: Yes, "Infra-Man" moves up to three stars.
Ebert also reviewed MPM on his TV program in early 1999 with Harry Knowles as his guest co-host (following the sudden death of Gene Siskel). The review doesn't contain any interesting comments that are worth quoting, other than Ebert repeats his view that sometimes "bad" special effects are more fun to watch than good ones and that he also really likes Infra-Man, which was made by the same studio.
Gotta admit here that I never quite understood the generally positive reaction to Mighty Peking Man, whether it was being promoted as a camp classic (as Ebert does here) or as a legitimately good movie in the Asian monster movie fan press (which I find even more bizarre). For sheer entertainment value, I've always considered A*P*E the superior choice. But to each his own.
With all that out of the way, all that's left is the miscellany. Mostly, it's a collection of irrelevant references to Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster and Infra-Man in reviews where they kind of don't belong. But it's worth a look, so here we go.
In his review of Battle of the Amazons (1973), Ebert writes:
No movie in the last 20 years has been dubbed more ineptly. No, not even "Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster."
That was the first documented reference to Smog Monster that I could find. But the movie comes up again in Ebert's review of Tidal Wave (1975), which of course was just the Americanization of Submersion of Japan (1973). Ebert opens with:
Bad movies are really getting awful these days. It seems like only yesterday we were savoring bombs like "The Vengeance of She" and "Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster" movies so terrible they achieved a sort of greatness.
Ebert continues:
I was hoping 'Tidal Wave" would be a movie like that. When the publicity photographs arrived in the mail a few weeks ago, I was heartened by the sight of the staples holding together the cardboard skyscrapers: Here was a movie with real lack of promise!
Remember what I said a moment ago about Toho's miniature work? Anyway, here, Ebert raises the ire of every Godzilla message board troll who takes it upon himself to police the overall fandom's opinion about who really won at the end of King Kong vs. Godzilla (1962):
It even looked like a good bet to outflank "King Kong vs. Godzilla." (What happened in that one, as I recall, is that King Kong lost and is currently trying to promote a bout with the Smog Monster, to establish himself as a contender once again.)
Next, Ebert proves you don't need a guy in a rubber suit in order to trash tokusatsu tactics:
But "Tidal Wave" let me down. It is purely and simply a wretched failure, a feeble attempt to paste together inept special effects (filmed in Japan) and Lorne Greene (filmed in America to his everlasting regret, I'll bet).
Ebert was as fit as a fiddle at the time he wrote that, so we can't blame his opinion on any illness. Now let's get back to Smog Monster references.
In his review of God Told Me To (1976), Ebert writes:
Not since "Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster" had a press release promised so much.
In his review of Slithis (1978), we get a Roger Ebert double whammy when he offers:
I did, however, enter the theater, hoping for one of those great bad movies like “Godzilla vs. The Smog Monster” or the immortal “Infra-Man.” I was disappointed.
Wow, a Smog Monster and Infra-Man reference in the same review! I guess Christmas came a bit early for readers of the Chicago Sun-Times. Let's skip ahead a view years to Rog's newspaper review of The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1997), in which Ebert writes:
The film's structure is weird. I thought it was over, and then it began again, with a San Diego sequence in which Spielberg seemed to be trying to upstage the upcoming "Godzilla'' movie. The monster-stepping-on-cars sequences in the current Japanese import "Gamera: Guardian of the Universe'' are more entertaining.
I remember reading the above review in real time and thinking how interesting it was seeing Ebert essentially side with Godzilla and Gamera over Spielberg's latest offering. Out of context, it may seem somewhat impressive. In context, however, I think we all know how things really are.
While we're on the subject, in his Movie Answer Man column from June 15, 1997, Ebert responds to a reader's question about whether the scene featuring evacuating Japanese businessmen in The Lost World: Jurassic Park might have been a bit racist:
I laughed, too. Spielberg is obviously basing an affectionate in-joke on the Japanese monster movie genre, and no racism was intended or should be found. By the way, your financee should know that fans of Japanese monster movies think they're better than "Lost World."
Oh, hey, look! Gamera's back in Ebert's review of Armageddon (1998):
After meteors turn an entire street into a flaming wasteland, the woman complains, "I want to go shopping!" I hope in Japan that line is redubbed as "Nothing can save us but Gamera!"
Below is a grab bag of Infra-Man references. In his review of The Manitou (1978), Ebert closes his review with:
What's interesting is that “The Manitou” finds it necessary to claim a factual basis for itself, at the end of easily the least plausible thriller since, oh, “Infra-Man.”
In Ebert's review of Flash Gordon (1980), he opens with:
Not since "Infra-Man" has a movie opened with a development more ominous than the crisis facing Earth at the beginning of "Flash Gordon."
In his Swamp Thing (1982) review, Ebert comments:
This is one of those movies like "Infra-Man" or "Invasion of the Bee Girls": an off-the-wall, eccentric, peculiar movie fueled by the demented obsessions of its makers.
In Ebert's review of If Looks Could Kill (1991), he writes:
I'm so accustomed to the badness of the movies in the spy-spoof genre that it took me a while to realize that William Dear and Darren Star, the director and writer, were sincerely trying to go over the top - that like the makers of such films as "In Like Flint," "Invasion of the Bee Girls" and the immortal "Infra-Man," they indeed had an unholy light glinting in their eye, and were making a subversive film rather than following a formula.
In his review of Mars Attacks! (1996), he writes:
Ed Wood himself could have told us what's wrong with this movie: The makers felt superior to the material. To be funny, even schlock has to believe in itself. Go to a video store and look for “Infra-Man” or “Invasion of the Bee Girls,” and you will find movies that lack stars and big budgets and fancy special effects, but are funny and fun in a way that Burton's megaproduction never really understands.
Last (and certainly least), Ebert received this message from one of his readers in his November 4, 2001, Movie Answer Man column:
Forget the theory that "K-Pax" was borrowed from the Argentinean film :"Man Facing Southeast." The idea of a psychiatrist examining a patient who claims to be an alien dates back even further. "Ghidrah, The Three-Headed Monster" (1964) stars Akiko Wakabayashi as the princess of Salgina. Upon hearing a mysterious voice, she gains prophetic powers and claims to be a Martian (Venusian in the Japanese version). She is taken to a psychiatrist played by the late, great Takashi Shimura, who comes to the conclusion that there is nothing wrong with her, but he refuses to accept the notion that she is an alien. (Brett Homenick, Spring Valley CA)
To which the man himself replied:
Takashi Shimura starred in "Ikiru," "The Seven Samurai," "Hidden Fortress" and "Kwaidan," four of the greatest films of all time. I have to go with his diagnosis.
And that's a wrap.
I'm sure many will be quick to cry racism, but I think that charge misses the mark. Ebert was quick to praise many other Japanese movies as superior works of art. His "blind spot" seems pretty much limited to movies with guys in monster suits, which, in fairness, probably do appear quite silly to most normies.
I'm sure there are things I missed, but this is about as complete as I could make it. If you've made it this far, thanks for reading!
Excellent work. Great resource.
ReplyDeleteHe only seemed to praise these movies as way to insult other movies, that's disappointing.
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